March 26, 2026

Afraid of Internet Conspiracies: Miami Aliens, Celebrity Clones & The Charlie Kirk Rabbit Hole

Miami Aliens, Celebrity Clones & The Charlie Kirk Rabbit Hole Hosts Bob Heske and Cuyle Carvin crack open three of the internet’s most unhinged conspiracy obsessions. It starts with the Miami mall chaos—what police called “teen fights and fireworks,” the internet quickly reframed as alien beings and 10‑foot shadow creatures stalking Bayside Marketplace. Then we dive into the wild world of celebrity clone rumors, from the long‑running Avril Lavigne “replacement” theory to claims that Jim C...

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Miami Aliens, Celebrity Clones & The Charlie Kirk Rabbit Hole

Hosts Bob Heske and Cuyle Carvin crack open three of the internet’s most unhinged conspiracy obsessions. It starts with the Miami mall chaos—what police called “teen fights and fireworks,” the internet quickly reframed as alien beings and 10‑foot shadow creatures stalking Bayside Marketplace.

Then we dive into the wild world of celebrity clone rumors, from the long‑running Avril Lavigne “replacement” theory to claims that Jim Carrey isn’t the real Jim Carrey anymore.

And because the internet never stops, we plunge into the bizarre conspiracies orbiting the murder of political commentator Charlie Kirk, where memes morph into “secret network” narratives overnight.

The episode wraps with a bigger question: Why are we so hungry for disclosure? Bob and Cuyle explore the modern UFO zeitgeist—and Cuyle shares thoughts on the curious timing of Steven Spielberg’s upcoming alien‑themed film Disclosure Day, where he appears on screen.

Buckle up and put on your tinfoil cap for a fast, edgy, curiosity‑spiking ride through the conspiracies people love, the truths they ignore, and the myths we can’t stop creating.

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Internet Conspiracies, Miami Aliens, Celebrity Clones, and the Charlie Kirk Rabbit Hole.

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January 1, 2024.

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Dozens of police cars swarm a Miami Mall.

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Witnesses claim chaos, fireworks, and fights.

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But within hours, a different story explodes online.

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Some people say 10-foot shadow creatures were spotted near the entrance of Bayside Marketplace.

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Meanwhile, on another corner of the internet, people claim celebrities like Jim Carrey have been secretly replaced by clones.

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And political commentator Charlie Kirk has become the center of strange conspiracy narratives and viral memes.

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So what's actually real, and what's just internet mythology?

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Today we're diving deep into three viral conspiracies that captured the internet.

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Listeners join the tribe.

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I thought it was a good idea.

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It's just going to be you and I riffing on some internet conspiracy theories.

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So uh hope you've done your research and got your your conspiracy uh thoughts lined up.

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Well, I I you know I've been into conspiracies probably for like 20 years now, and I've gone deep on some, but it's like a little no, it's like one of those things that I don't think people would ever guess, like people that know me that don't know me well, or or you know, just by public appearance, people would never guess I'm really into conspiracy theories.

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But um, you know, some I'm some I'm well versed in, and then some uh I've definitely become where I think a lot more things are plausible, put it that way.

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Wow, yeah.

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Now, you were always you always kind of wanted to believe in ghosts, but you're always kind of skeptic, you hadn't had anything.

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And you had texted me a couple months ago, you said I got like two nights in a row, you know, you won't believe this kind of thing that happened with my son uh in his in his room that I saw, you know, in the baby monitor.

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Um and then it and you sent me a text the next day, it happened again.

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So uh we you kind of told me that story.

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It's a little, it's a little creepy and kind of interesting.

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Yeah, let's uh do you mind giving the audience kind of the full disclosure of what happened?

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Yeah.

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Yeah, it is it's interesting because, like you said, I've wanted to have like an uh de facto moment uh you know, to like confirm what I believe to be true.

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You know, I still I'm still skeptical of it, of course, but basically, um this was probably I don't know, three or four months ago.

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And um, you know, baby, baby, babies and baby monitors.

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Uh that's uh it's always like a creep factor.

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But uh it was probably um around midnight, and uh I was up alone, everybody was sleeping, and uh suddenly I hear this children's song.

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I uh couldn't identify, I don't know what the song is, and I so I you know I pause the TV and I'm looking around, where is this coming from?

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What and then I realize oh, it's it's coming from the baby monitor, so aka the the room where the baby's sleeping.

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So I'm like, what the heck?

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So I I I I run down the hallway and open the door, and no lie, as soon as I, you know, the latch for the door and just started to swing, the music stops, it cut itself off immediately.

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Um, which was that was part of part of the strange thing.

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So I go in the room just to try and look to see what was making that noise.

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So I'm like, in my head, I'm like, he probably just turned something off.

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He got a hold of some toy, it got into his crib, we didn't know it, and you know, he had pushed it.

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So I look in his crib, but he's asleep, there's no toy in there.

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So then I started thinking, and being, you know, that I'm already of the mind of you know, I'm already into paranormal stuff, of course.

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So my my mind naturally drifts towards like, oh my god, I was like, is this a ghost?

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Uh so then uh I'm just looking for the room.

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What could possibly make that noise?

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Because it was a song I had never heard, a song I'd never heard.

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Um, I don't even know if it's an actual children's song, but then I, you know, on the bed, there's this little pink like toy phone that uh, you know, there's a there's a five-year-old in the house as well.

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And um, this was his like little toy.

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So that was on the bed.

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So I'm looking at that, but I'm trying to find out even how to play the song because I couldn't figure it out.

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Um so I just kind of uh assumed with that first experience that there was something strange.

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My my biased mind turns that there was something paranormal, something like a maybe a guardian angel or some sort of spirit that was there to kind of play with or look after um, you know, Jorah, my five, my my 18-month-old.

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Um and that's what I kind of thought about for the night.

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So that's what I texted you.

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It's like I gotta tell you this this because it felt so it was like this is like uh this is like a classic example of something, you know, the something going off in a room not I'm not in.

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Uh baby, baby monitor, all this stuff.

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Um, and and and the timing of me opening the door, the fact that it stopped literally when I the latch of the door opens.

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Um, it just reminded me of like, you know, when you catch like your your your child or you catch uh your pet or whatever do and they know they're doing something that they're not supposed to do it, and you like call their name and they stop immediately.

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It's like it's almost like the the ghost or the spirit in there stopped because it had got caught, you know, just the music stopped perfectly when I was entering the building.

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That uh phone toy, was it like the old-fashioned one on the cradle, you know, where you kind of talked to it, or was it like a cell phone version, or what type of no, it's a very modern version.

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Um, it it's very it's basically like a really, really simple uh smartphone where it can take like really rude, you know, four megapixel pictures.

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It kind of replicates, you know, just for kids to think they have like a real phone.

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So it has like some songs that are preloaded on it, but you can take pictures.

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I don't even know if it saves the pictures or not.

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Um, but just a very you know two-dollar type electronic.

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Did you hear that song?

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Was that song kind of on the playlist for this thing?

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Or was that the or was it something totally different?

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Uh I don't that uh I I did try to find the song and I wasn't able to even figure out how to to ask your son each two, he'll tell you how to do it.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Like how do you find the song?

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But then you know, it did.

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It happened again.

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Um and I thought it was strange.

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This time it didn't shut off when I hit when I rent the room, though.

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I actually I touched some buttons on the to make it stop.

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Um so it's but it was a it was the same feeling of like I feel like somebody's here, and you know, there's to add to the story, there's so much context with these things, and you know, it's it's just anecdotal, of course.

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Uh so it's it's you know, it's it's hard for other people to really be there when they're not to experience it.

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Um but um you know, my my brother's wife, my um she had passed away two years ago unexpectedly, and um it's funny enough, it was like 10 days.

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She she had died, and within 10 days later is when we found out that um Evie uh was pregnant.

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So it was just so close to when she died to when we found out she was pregnant.

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Um that played into my mind about maybe this is Lisa coming to visit, because Lisa would have absolutely uh my sister-in-law would have absolutely loved uh the concept, you know, of me just having a child, which was never, you know, on any kind of prospect or anybody's bingo card in my life.

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Um so it's like that was uh my natural thought too is just like this is Lisa.

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She's she's come to say hello and and and be with Jorah.

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Now um you got rid of the phone, right?

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How did you clever eBay reseller, you you got rid of the phone?

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I got I got rid of it because um not because I was like scared of it per se.

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It was more of um it was a toy that even when it wasn't doing something paranormal, it was an annoying toy to to listen to.

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So just got rid of that.

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Oh yeah.

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Oh, I do you know that I had uh my uh youngest daughter Emily, I had a video out on YouTube called The Ghost in Emily's Crib.

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Did you know that?

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Uh to remind me, I do I do recall about Darm.

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This was uh a while ago, when it was before like good cell phones, and it was a baby monitor for like a week it'd be going on where there was this weird type of sinewy spider-wee figure traipsing across our daughter, you know, and we thought, well, is it some weird stuff coming in through the lights?

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Is it a spider web?

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Is it whatever, you know?

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And so we would change the camera position, we would do all this stuff, and um, you know, being the typical uh disconnected husband, I I didn't I ignored it for the first like week, you know.

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My my ex-wife was telling me about it.

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And and so I was home alone watching my daughter, and I saw it clear as a bell, you know, kind of this sinewee spiderway figure kind of traipsing over my daughter while she's uh sleeping.

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And then as she got up, it left.

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And so um I had posted that.

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I posted that on YouTube, and it was actually on Jim Harold had a show with a guy named Clayton Morris called The Paranormal Files or something.

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And that was actually in the movie, Kyle.

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It was in the movie that we made, um Afraid of nothing.

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That was in there too.

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So yeah.

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So yeah, I um it was weird.

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And same thing.

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We got rid of the uh we got rid of the bed.

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We got a different bed.

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Yeah, yeah, because we tried all this stuff, you know.

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Uh yeah.

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What do you what do you think that could have been?

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You have any theories?

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I don't know.

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I remember um talking to Ruthie Larkin when we were first like doing some research for the documentary, and she thought it might have been she thought it might have been uh maybe a a sister that when Emily was born that maybe didn't make it through, like Emily was gonna be, you know, kind of twins or something.

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And so it was it was weird.

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I have to have to ask my ex-wife about that, but she thought it was like a protective, like a almost like a lost sibling.

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Now, maybe Angela had a miscarriage before, or maybe it was based on that pregnancy or something, but yeah, she thought it was something, it was kind of a uh a sister that was not born or didn't make it to birth.

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So uh that was kind of the thought.

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So I don't know.

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I gotta I have to go back and ask my ex-wife about that, what she thinks.

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But that was it was weird, you know, and it was just kind of interesting, and it was really bad kind of because the monitor and I had this bad type of video recorder, and so it's not super great quality, you know.

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It's kind of like what people complain about UFOs nowadays.

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Why do they have such bad picture, you know?

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But it's uh but it was enough to uh to show, and actually I I did get some play on the internet on it, and it was kind of interesting, and and then it went away after we we got rid of the bed, you know, the grip.

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Sure.

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So uh the bed, yeah, it's a double roll of bed, I think.

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So um, yeah, so we both have that, that baby monitor thing, man.

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It's uh baby babies in spirits, like it's uh it's it's uh peanut butter and jelly, they go together.

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Yeah.

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Well, I'm I'm I'm glad that you had a a ghostly experience and you're closer to believing in something.

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You haven't had a full apparition yet.

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I haven't either, but uh let's talk about some other stuff.

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I mean, let's talk about the uh Miami Mall incident, which I think was around January of 2024 at the Bayside Marketplace.

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I'm looking down at my notes, um where it was a massive police response.

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I mean massive, you know, you would see like almost all the police in Miami.

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As far as the block stress.

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If you were going to commit a crime, that was the night to do it because all the police were there, right?

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And first it was just like they're blaming on like teens fighting or fireworks, and then after that, some stuff came out of the internet where it was something else.

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So let's uh I know you've kind of dug into this a little bit.

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Share your thoughts on that and and and what kind of piqued your interest.

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Yeah, I think uh, you know, I had seen this because I watch a lot of YouTube, um not necessarily conspiracy vids, but you know, weird, you know, weird things that happened in the world last week type of videos.

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So this one immediately stuck out.

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Strictly, you know, if you haven't seen for anybody listening who hasn't hasn't seen it, check out just just Google or YouTube Miami Mall incident.

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There's all there's limited footage of the actual event, which is also phone.

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They took away the phone for people.

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Yeah.

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It's like one of the more popular videos is somebody who's living in uh an apartment complex looking down, I don't know, they're really high up, I don't know, 30th floor or whatever, and they're just surveying with their camera the incident at the mall, with just like you said, there's I mean, I didn't it looks like I mean a hundred cops or more.

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And the whenever things come out like official stories about things, and it's something as simple in this case as they were there to break up a fight.

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Initially, it's it's it just feels strange.

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Um because well, I could kind of I could I could kind of believe that if how big is this fight, you know, that'll be an enormous fight, because I know people can get rowdy, it's New Year's, you know, New Year's Eve, New Year's Day.

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So maybe it could make sense, but even then, it just the amount of police presence um just makes you kind of wonder.

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And then when you have um uh immediately there's you know, people and people come out with their voices of of theories of things that they're hearing, what's going on.

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Um, and over the next couple weeks, as information was slowly trickling out, because it's always hard, you know, in the first the first uh you know, few days after, it's like there's no information to really make any kind of judgment call.

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Uh, but then you started to hear like things such as some eyewitness accounts that that people had seen, um, kind of like translucent beings or or people that were kind of in and out of uh kind of going invisible, come in uh or tur or teleporting within space.

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And tall, like like 10 feet tall, like not like short translucent being.

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Yeah, shadow beings, like all these different variations, plus the fact you combine that with um so allegedly allegedly, um there was a lot of like NDAs slash confiscation of phones from people at the mall, which is up to my knowledge, like there's still if you try to find that stuff, maybe there's a few things that I haven't seen, but I don't think that footage exists.

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There's no there's no footage from the mall that has been released to back up, you know, if it is a is it if it is a fight, let's see it.

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And was anybody arrested?

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Uh was anybody arrested and charged with anything, you know, or I don't think Yeah, there's there's so much to it that doesn't fit that original narrative that they're breaking up.

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And you're right, there's like literally panning across, you're not exaggerating when you say 100 cop cars.

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It was like literally a full pan down a street and down all the way, it was and they're all parked kitty cat on top of each other.

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Um, yeah, I mean, if if it was because of a fight, what was the gang and what was the who did they capture or whatever?

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So it's just how did it, you know, as you looked at it, was did it just quietly go away?

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Was there any resolution?

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Or um, I think it quietly went away, but I think that's on purpose.

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Um, because nobody was uh allowed.

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I heard I I had heard that some people initially within the first 24-48 hours came out such, you know, like TikTok videos and such that talked about their experience of things that they saw, but they were quickly quickly removed from platforms andor the ones that kind of made it through.

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Um, I saw people were saying, like, watch this, you know, watch this before it's taken down type videos.

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And people were were telling the experience, and uh some of them had said like the the the charges that they were going to get charged with by sharing the information and then their accounts disappeared.

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And you can go on YouTube uh, you know, and just type in like Miami Mall incident uh eyewitnesses, and there'll be some people that made uh videos of such eyewitnesses giving accounts that uh accounts no longer exist.

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There's just a lot of um there's a lot of questions about all that that I feel just like most you know so-called conspiracy theories, it's like uh if you want people to to believe the story, then provide evidence that it was just a just a fight.

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Yeah, with all those cop cars, I'm surprised nobody had like a CB radio or whatever to pick up what was going on over that.

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I mean, none of that stuff kind of came out that I was aware of.

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So yeah, that's crazy.

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I mean, I think one theory, you know, if you can do the conspiracy thing, was it was a portal or a time slip, and it was just kind of a weird thing that happened that they came out, oops, and then they went back.

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I don't know.

00:20:07.889 --> 00:20:14.450
It wasn't like they were terrorizing like a mall, and you know, but it was like almost like they appeared and it's like, uh-oh, and then they were were kind of gone.

00:20:14.529 --> 00:20:17.490
So I don't know what else you heard, but it that's one theory that I heard.

00:20:18.369 --> 00:20:19.009
There's so many.

00:20:19.089 --> 00:20:45.649
Yeah, I don't know if it's the same one you're talking about, but I had heard that there's some sort of um uh longitudinal, latitudinal um, you know, GPS pinpoint that these beans um I forget where the where they thought they were, like some sort of portal, like you said, there's some there's some sort of location that they thought they were going to, and actually it correlates with like the other side of the earth or something like that.

00:20:45.809 --> 00:20:55.809
Uh I'm not as as uh it could almost be an alien comedy where they think they're going to the White House and they end up in a mall, you know, or something.

00:20:56.289 --> 00:20:57.170
It's crazy.

00:20:57.409 --> 00:21:01.490
Um well there's like I heard an interesting one.

00:21:01.569 --> 00:21:26.529
I think it was like from a remote viewer a couple weeks ago where they had mentioned um that they they believed that the the beings that were in the mall were entities like demonic entities that um um were trying to actually the way that demons, I guess that this person was explained it was uh trying to find a new host body, basically.

00:21:26.769 --> 00:21:37.329
Um but because of the size, their physical size, that they're unable to fit in a lot of uh they tied it back to the time of uh the giants.

00:21:37.649 --> 00:21:38.129
Yeah.

00:21:38.849 --> 00:21:49.889
So they said that these were like old ancient demonic uh entities that were were trying to find new host bodies, but they can't physically fit into human bodies.

00:21:50.049 --> 00:21:53.409
Um, you know, it was just a theory I thought was was interesting.

00:21:53.649 --> 00:21:54.529
Yeah, it's just funny.

00:21:54.609 --> 00:21:57.089
Then these things just go away and the next thing happens, you know.

00:21:57.170 --> 00:22:02.049
Um so one of the next things that's been happening recently is cloning, like human cloning.

00:22:02.129 --> 00:22:07.649
So people may or may not remember Dolly the Sheep that was cloned in 1996, right?

00:22:07.730 --> 00:22:09.569
It came out, you know, a perfect clone.

00:22:09.730 --> 00:22:15.170
And then since that time, they've been cloning uh like pets or like livestock and stuff, you know.

00:22:15.329 --> 00:22:22.210
And um people spend, if they lose a pet that they love, they spend fifty thousand to a hundred and fifty thousand dollars to get a clone of their pet.

00:22:22.369 --> 00:22:23.730
And they don't get on the first try.

00:22:23.809 --> 00:22:25.409
They have to do it and do it and do it, right?

00:22:25.490 --> 00:22:29.970
Which is probably why if you do it with humans, that's probably brings up kind of a moral thing, you know.

00:22:30.129 --> 00:22:37.889
But uh I think one of the first ones I heard was Avril Lavrine in like in 2003, the pop singer.

00:22:38.049 --> 00:22:41.089
She was at a concert and she kind of had an emotional moment.

00:22:41.250 --> 00:22:42.450
Her grandfather died.

00:22:42.609 --> 00:22:49.970
And the rumor was that right after that, she had a body double that sh the body double took over for her because she may have committed suicide or something.

00:22:50.129 --> 00:22:51.889
But, anyways, Avril Lavine.

00:22:52.450 --> 00:22:59.490
How she appears in her composure in interviews before and after changes, even her handwriting changes a bit.

00:22:59.730 --> 00:23:05.809
And now the speculation, or at least the theory, was that she uh, you know, it was her body double.

00:23:05.970 --> 00:23:07.170
Same thing with like the Beatles.

00:23:07.250 --> 00:23:11.170
Remember, like in the early 60s, you know, probably before your time, but uh Paul McCartney.

00:23:11.329 --> 00:23:14.769
Paul, Paul is dead, and they got a body double for him.

00:23:14.849 --> 00:23:18.450
Um even MM, you know, there was a theory about him.

00:23:18.690 --> 00:23:22.210
And most recently, an actor, Jim Carrey.

00:23:22.289 --> 00:23:26.609
And so what are your thoughts about the uh human cloning and the Jim Carrey one in particular?

00:23:27.250 --> 00:23:28.210
It's interesting.

00:23:28.369 --> 00:23:39.970
Um there has been so many um, like you said, it's pol it's like uh celebrities, people in authority, uh politics.

00:23:40.210 --> 00:23:51.490
It it it's it seems to be kind of uh there's like people that look out for um if it's not if it's not necessarily cloning, it's like uh these high high-tech masks.

00:23:51.730 --> 00:23:52.369
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:23:52.930 --> 00:23:53.409
Yeah.

00:23:53.649 --> 00:24:19.009
Um with Jim Jim Carrey's interesting because yeah, it's like uh one of the surrounding things, which I'm not sure folks who aren't into um you know conspiratal circles or or just like paranormal circle circles may not know that Jim Carrey um over the past say decade or so has become very much um I would say spiritual, very like metaphysical.

00:24:19.170 --> 00:24:29.569
If you ever if you look at some interviews, he talks, he says things like um, you know, we don't exist, uh messages like that, where it kind of sounds like he's gone loony.

00:24:29.970 --> 00:24:33.889
Um I mean, Jim Carrey is only always loony, but in a different way, you know.

00:24:34.049 --> 00:24:41.409
Um but listen to like his early interviews to the last decade, he became very like uh spiritually awakened, I would say.

00:24:41.569 --> 00:24:51.649
Not necessarily like religious, just he was almost like an uncomfortable interview, you know, if you're on the red carpet or whatever, because he would say stuff and you're like, you know, you know, ah, none of this matters, you know.

00:24:51.730 --> 00:24:53.809
I'm just playing a character Jim Carrey right now.

00:24:53.889 --> 00:24:58.690
And if I if you see me change or grow a beard or whatever, you know, it's not me.

00:24:58.769 --> 00:25:01.329
They took me, you know, and so that raised kind of the speculation.

00:25:01.409 --> 00:25:06.769
So he was at some award show or something in in France and totally different looking.

00:25:06.849 --> 00:25:11.329
And even his demeanor was different looking, and it was like a lot of people that had questioned that.

00:25:11.490 --> 00:25:18.450
And they thought first it was there's a guy, I forget his name, but it's very famous for uh mask and impersonating, but it wasn't him, you know.

00:25:18.529 --> 00:25:19.970
They confirmed that it wasn't him.

00:25:20.129 --> 00:25:41.089
Um, so but yeah, I mean his whole look and demeanor was off, was different, and uh, you know, so I which isn't necessarily uncommon because you know, you see, especially like Hollywood, where uh it's so important to so many folks that they try to remain, you know, the younger look because you know you can age out of Hollywood.

00:25:41.250 --> 00:25:50.849
And so at first I actually just thought that I was like, oh man, I never would have thought Jim Carrey would go through like all the Botox and all the uh cosmetic surgeries and stuff.

00:25:50.930 --> 00:25:52.369
He didn't seem to type.

00:25:52.529 --> 00:25:55.250
Um, but I was like, you know, maybe that's all it is.

00:25:55.329 --> 00:26:14.450
But then yeah, the more the the the thing that stuck stuck out with me the most of why it wasn't Jim Carrey was that night when he was signing autographs and everything, he was uh the the whoever that was was a right was signing it with the right hand, and it's well known Jim Carrey's a left-hander.

00:26:14.529 --> 00:26:16.210
Oh wow, he's left-handed.

00:26:16.369 --> 00:26:22.129
And if you I mean you can just go back in any videos, he does everything as a lefty, and suddenly that night he's a righty.

00:26:22.609 --> 00:26:24.769
So do I believe as Jim Carrey?

00:26:24.849 --> 00:26:32.049
No, I actually I actually don't, but you know, for me to give an answer of what what it was or why, I'm not sure.

00:26:32.289 --> 00:26:34.609
You know, I I well let me pose this question.

00:26:34.690 --> 00:26:39.409
Do you believe human cloning is being done, but we just don't know about it?

00:26:40.690 --> 00:26:43.329
Um, I think it's certainly plausible.

00:26:43.490 --> 00:26:49.089
Uh I would say yes, but then I think that would require me to have some some proof to well that's just your best guess.

00:26:49.170 --> 00:26:51.490
Because look, Dolly, the sheep, was 1996.

00:26:51.569 --> 00:26:52.609
That's a long time ago, right?

00:26:52.690 --> 00:26:53.809
And they've been cloning pets.

00:26:54.450 --> 00:27:02.210
And um, I don't know, you could say maybe it's more complex with humans because you know, when you put the DNA in and the protein and make sure it all messes up.

00:27:02.369 --> 00:27:06.369
But uh it raises a whole bunch of uh moral questions, right?

00:27:06.450 --> 00:27:09.409
Because I'm thinking, what if they were able to clone humans?

00:27:09.569 --> 00:27:21.409
Um on one aspect, if the population slows down, you could have more humans, you know, you could have more humans and you could clone some of your better people and have a better, you know, you could have a robust society.

00:27:21.490 --> 00:27:22.609
Maybe that's good.

00:27:22.930 --> 00:27:29.649
On the flip side, they could uh, you know, use them for slavery, you know, for child abuse or things like that.

00:27:29.730 --> 00:27:34.129
It could be an easy way to, you know, rather than get one person and then get a hundred, you know.

00:27:34.289 --> 00:27:39.730
So there's a lot of good and bad uses for human cloning that you can think of.

00:27:39.889 --> 00:27:48.210
And then depending on what religion you have, it's it's kind of uh anti-moral and against your principles, depending on where you stand in in religion.

00:27:48.369 --> 00:27:50.529
So um yeah, yeah.

00:27:51.009 --> 00:28:13.809
There's um, you know, the um if you look at something as simple as like uh Apple iPhones, it's you know, we get the whatever's coming out, say the Apple 12 is and then the time that the Apple 12 version 12 comes out, they already have the technology, you know, for 13, 14, 15, 16 or whatever down the line.

00:28:13.970 --> 00:28:39.730
So if you just look at just logically speaking, knowing that that's true, I don't think it's a a reach to expect if you just extend that to more serious things, the capabilities of of science and authorities and the powers that be, the amount of technology is that uh that we're privy to and that we know about is gonna be, I mean, it's gonna be so primitive to actually what is really out there.

00:28:39.889 --> 00:28:57.170
I think it's a very extension uh extension of you know, logical extension, I should say, if we accept that we know like technology in you know, 2025 Subaru Outback, they have the the technology for 26, 27, 28, but they're not gonna release it all at the same time because then nobody's gonna buy.

00:28:57.329 --> 00:29:00.609
They need they need new stuff to introduce every year to keep people buying stuff.

00:29:00.769 --> 00:29:08.049
So why wouldn't you know governments and powers that be have far-reaching uh technological capability?

00:29:08.210 --> 00:29:10.049
But we're not gonna we're not gonna know about it.

00:29:10.289 --> 00:29:15.250
You know, a question I have is uh, would a cloned human being have a soul?

00:29:16.049 --> 00:29:17.009
Interesting, right?

00:29:17.170 --> 00:29:25.329
Well, you know, did you see, I think it was just yesterday or two days ago, um the with the fruit, I don't know if it was a mosquito or a fruit fly.

00:29:25.409 --> 00:29:27.009
Did you see the experiment they did?

00:29:27.170 --> 00:29:50.930
Um and I could be wrong because I just I just read about it briefly, but they basically were able to basically download the um the mind of a fruit fly or mosquito or whatever insect this was, and they uploaded it and and then put it into a completely um fabricated um body of a uh of a of a mosquito or a fruit.

00:29:51.170 --> 00:29:53.250
A physical body or a real synthetic body?

00:29:53.569 --> 00:29:54.849
No, a real physical body.

00:29:55.009 --> 00:30:17.730
They basically just basically they uploaded the software that they were down that they downloaded from an actual real live insect and they put it into the uh replicated metal, you know, metal body or whatever they made the materials of of a fake body and they uploaded the software and it immediately uh acted like a real fruit flyer, a real insect, or whatever it was.

00:30:18.210 --> 00:30:21.170
Check that out because it just came out yesterday or the day before.

00:30:21.409 --> 00:30:25.490
But it's like um it made me think about that question.

00:30:25.569 --> 00:30:29.970
Like, uh, would would humans, uh a cloned human, have a soul?

00:30:30.129 --> 00:30:33.490
Um would they be AI or would they have be have a consciousness?

00:30:33.649 --> 00:30:34.369
Would they have a soul?

00:30:34.529 --> 00:30:36.129
Those are the questions it raises, right?

00:30:36.210 --> 00:30:37.889
So uh interesting, yeah.

00:30:37.970 --> 00:31:04.129
I mean, you I kind of feel like I mean, I guess, yeah, uh do you look if you're looking at it from a spiritual sense, I I can't imagine it necessarily would if you believe that you know God gives us our our souls and our spirits, and um, but then I guess I mean it's a good question because you know if God created us, we're creators, we're created in him in his image, we're also creators.

00:31:04.210 --> 00:31:08.129
So if we create a clone of ourselves, are we giving it a soul?

00:31:08.289 --> 00:31:09.170
Are we giving it a spirit?

00:31:09.329 --> 00:31:10.609
I mean, and how would you even test that?

00:31:10.690 --> 00:31:13.089
That would be something very interesting to find out, yeah.

00:31:13.569 --> 00:31:20.129
So let's move on to our third internet conspiracy, which is um Charlie Kirk.

00:31:20.210 --> 00:31:21.569
Let's talk about Charlie Kirk.

00:31:21.730 --> 00:31:27.809
Uh there's a lot of uh conspiracy theories about who killed him.

00:31:27.889 --> 00:31:37.889
Uh was it was it the uh transgender, was it the person who was kind of you know had the transgender uh girlfriend, boyfriend, or was it uh was Israel involved?

00:31:38.049 --> 00:31:50.369
There's also like I've heard on the internet the wild speculations that you know Erica Kirk has been cloned, and the person that's there now is a is a different version, you know, and the real one Erica Kirk was uh taken out.

00:31:50.450 --> 00:31:54.210
So who knows what you listen to, but what are you what are your thoughts on that?

00:31:55.009 --> 00:31:56.129
It's a tough one.

00:31:56.369 --> 00:32:03.569
Um I um like most, I don't think I have any kind of answer.

00:32:03.649 --> 00:32:33.409
I don't know if if we ever will have a direct answer to that, but um what I do believe is the the story that we're told that the the the person that uh the assassin that's currently in the in court, I I don't believe that that person is the assassin or acted alone or uh or acting alone or you think it was an MK Ultra thing, like a mind control thing, or do you think it was something there's some weird stuff like that guy who distracted right away, you know?

00:32:33.730 --> 00:32:36.289
There's a guy who came up and said, Oh, it was me, I did it.

00:32:36.450 --> 00:32:41.730
He distracted people, and then there were the people that secured it behind him that looked like they're almost doing like hand signals and stuff.

00:32:41.809 --> 00:32:44.450
So there's like all these variations you can take it.

00:32:45.730 --> 00:33:04.849
Yeah, and there's like there, I mean, there's so many things, so many different odd, uh, odd context and variables, and that's uh you know, some something that I thought was strange was um you know, as soon as it happened, there's somebody from Charlie's like tech team that goes and grabs the camera to take the memory card out.

00:33:05.009 --> 00:33:06.609
Like that was their first action.

00:33:06.849 --> 00:33:16.210
And I thought that was a strange because it felt like it just feels like one of those things that who would have the wherewithal in a true tragedy if you didn't know it was gonna happen.

00:33:16.529 --> 00:33:26.769
You know, if this is really just a chaotic event, and literally within two seconds, they're on top of the camera pulling, not just but specifically to get the memory card out.

00:33:26.930 --> 00:33:30.129
It that feels off, it feels weird, it feels strange.

00:33:30.289 --> 00:33:32.129
Um is it proof of anything?

00:33:32.289 --> 00:33:32.529
No.

00:33:32.690 --> 00:33:56.369
And then there's a video of um uh you know the the security team jumping over to to to kind of check on Charlie, and one like throws a chair, and you can see there's a camera angle of the chair uh falling through, literally falling through the table, um, which aligns with some of the uh the theories that it was a hologram, that Charlie was actually a hologram.

00:33:56.930 --> 00:34:02.129
Um the fact that they came in and they cleaned the next day um is strange.

00:34:02.289 --> 00:34:07.170
Uh, there's like a lot of things that just go against typical protocol of a crime scene, for example.

00:34:07.490 --> 00:34:09.170
So it would be if it was a hologram.

00:34:09.250 --> 00:34:11.970
Maybe they killed him before that and they had to like get rid of them.

00:34:12.050 --> 00:34:14.210
They weren't gonna do a clone of them, they had to get rid of them.

00:34:14.369 --> 00:34:26.450
I mean, because uh yeah, I mean, uh like you said, they they cleaned the crime scene, and um that probably that was the most graphic and visual murder.

00:34:26.690 --> 00:34:34.610
You know, you got the JFK assassination, and but this was like you could see it, you know, and um from different angles, and it was shocking.

00:34:34.930 --> 00:34:36.450
Of course, people didn't react shocked.

00:34:36.530 --> 00:34:41.650
A lot of half the world was like, oh good, he deserved it, you know, and the other half you're feeling bad about it.

00:34:41.809 --> 00:34:45.730
But just the uh just the reality of it, man.

00:34:45.889 --> 00:34:49.730
It's like it was like murder in 8k, you know, it was like weird.

00:34:49.809 --> 00:34:51.010
It's like you're crazy.

00:34:51.090 --> 00:34:51.970
It's crazy, yeah.

00:34:52.050 --> 00:34:52.930
Yeah, it's crazy.

00:34:53.010 --> 00:35:06.769
They there's just so many, so many different voices right now, and then you have it continuing, you know, with um, you know, Candace Owens, who is outspoken on you know, bringing whatever truth she thinks is the truth to light.

00:35:07.009 --> 00:35:10.130
Um, and and you know, she raises a lot of questions.

00:35:10.210 --> 00:35:14.369
I don't follow as closely as I used to anymore, but raises some valid questions.

00:35:14.449 --> 00:35:23.889
But again, I don't know enough to even say, like some people say her her questions aren't are just more of a crazy conspiracy, you know, wielding person.

00:35:24.050 --> 00:35:26.849
Uh but if that's the case, why did she have her life threatened?

00:35:26.929 --> 00:35:29.090
You know, why did she kind of have to go, you know, right?

00:35:29.170 --> 00:35:31.650
Um if she if she's just crazy, why does she have her life threaten?

00:35:31.889 --> 00:35:42.849
And I gotta tell you, there's so much infighting on the right or the right commentators now with Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens, and everybody everybody's like fighting and doesn't get along, and they used to like six months ago or eight months.

00:35:43.009 --> 00:35:43.730
It's so weird.

00:35:43.969 --> 00:35:45.809
Um so what is causing that?

00:35:45.889 --> 00:35:46.929
You know, it's just it's crazy.

00:35:47.009 --> 00:35:59.730
It's like the the uh infighting that happens and people become enemies so quickly, you know, and um like you know, Ben Shapiro enemies with Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens, and it's just uh it's just strange.

00:35:59.889 --> 00:36:07.090
You know, they were very much united for all during the Biden presidency, and then once Trump became elected, everybody kind of went their separate ways.

00:36:07.170 --> 00:36:07.650
It's weird.

00:36:07.809 --> 00:36:45.570
So uh it's I Yeah, I think you know it's it's um I mean anything conspiratal in nature, um especially when you know I I I would assume maybe I'm wrong, but I would assume most people uh believe the world is um uh you know, the powers at the government, I know I keep using that, um, that that in general we're being protected, that uh people have our best interests as citizens of of the world or country, that um yeah, that the world is altruistic in a way.

00:36:45.730 --> 00:37:17.329
And I think that uh unless people dig into um real information beyond just you know typical uh mainstream media, uh, which you know how holds so much power, you know, unless people really spend the time to dig in and ask questions and have full curiosity, when when something as simple and and large scale as like a Charlie Kirk event happens, and it's and then accusations and conspiracies fly through.

00:37:17.409 --> 00:37:27.889
And this is people's only um exposure to something like in a conspiracy circle, when they're not in when they're not looking at other conspiracies that exist in the world.

00:37:28.050 --> 00:37:31.009
It's so easy to dismiss everything as crazy talk.

00:37:31.170 --> 00:37:48.130
And I think that's why a lot of I think that's why just conspiracy um has like it's a stigmatized word that all conspiracies are bad, that conspiracies are are lies, um, that there's um well on the plus side, they they make us ask questions, just like scientists do, right?

00:37:48.210 --> 00:38:00.210
Even if they think something's reality, they are constantly asking questions, and so probably that's a good thing, but man, it's maddening because the point of view, you would think if someone sees something, everyone would have the same point of view, but you don't.

00:38:00.289 --> 00:38:11.650
Everybody has different takes on it, and it's just so weird how you know it's it depends on how you were raised or where you are in life or what your philosophical and political thoughts are, what you believe, you know.

00:38:11.809 --> 00:38:13.489
So it's uh Yeah.

00:38:14.289 --> 00:38:19.090
I was just looking to see if I had this book that I'm reading now, it's called Sway.

00:38:19.809 --> 00:38:29.809
Um, and it's the subtitles uh is something like what like uh the the reasoning behind our your illogical behavior.

00:38:30.210 --> 00:38:57.329
And I love it because it's it's actually a lot about um the different biases we all hold, and no matter what information we're presented, um, how we tend to based on our previous experiences and biases and communities that we grow up in, that it's just so uh it's really hard to get people to accept or even acknowledge that there might be other information, especially when it goes against what we already believe or know.

00:38:57.570 --> 00:39:15.570
Um, but it's a it's a fantastic book, Sway, and it goes through all these studies about how people um how we all we all just act really irrational um despite the information being plain as day to us that that the what we believe is not true.

00:39:15.809 --> 00:39:18.210
Yeah, it's like you and the ghost story we started with, Kyle.

00:39:18.289 --> 00:39:21.570
You walked in, you had an example of a ghost story, but still you're not quite sure, right?

00:39:21.650 --> 00:39:24.690
So it's just it's uh yeah, it is.

00:39:24.769 --> 00:39:35.889
Um, and we've been kind of uh programmed to suppress our feelings, you know, what our suspicions a lot too, because for fear of looking foolish or for fear of being racist or whatever.

00:39:36.050 --> 00:39:38.210
So it's uh it's an odd thing, man.

00:39:38.369 --> 00:39:41.650
I I want to close on disclosure, all right.

00:39:41.809 --> 00:39:47.009
Uh there I I told you before we got on there was a documentary called uh The Age of Disclosure.

00:39:47.090 --> 00:39:47.570
It's really good.

00:39:47.650 --> 00:39:49.090
You should you should actually rent it if you can.

00:39:49.170 --> 00:39:54.050
It's but it's by a guy named Dan Ferrar, Dan Ferrer, I think, was the director.

00:39:54.210 --> 00:40:01.009
And he was also directed a he was a writer or is involved in some film called Player Number One, or is it what's it called?

00:40:01.170 --> 00:40:02.289
Get Ready Player Number One?

00:40:03.329 --> 00:40:04.610
Is it called Player Number One?

00:40:04.769 --> 00:40:05.650
Yeah, something like that.

00:40:05.809 --> 00:40:06.929
Um yeah, look at that way.

00:40:07.090 --> 00:40:12.449
Look, but uh which I think Steven Spielberg uh was a producer or whatever, so they know each other.

00:40:13.250 --> 00:40:15.889
But yeah, so um they know each other.

00:40:15.969 --> 00:40:24.130
So he comes out with this documentary where he's interviewing like all these government people where they're really kind of almost laying down their sword that yes, I I have seen something.

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I have seen, you know, there's something that's not human here and all this stuff.

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And then in the Super Bowl, they play this amazing ad with Emily Blunt, who I'm just gonna say right now, I hope it stays in the film, you have a scene with in uh in Disclosure Day, uh the Steven Spielberg film.

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So we hope we hope that comes to pass and we can see you on the big screen.

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But uh that creepy thing where she's clicking, like she's doing a broadcast and she starts clicking.

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You know, there is a guy named uh Daryl Enka.

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Have you ever heard of him?

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He talks to this being called Bashar, and he basically and he kind of clicks like that to start out to get into the character or whatever.

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He has this clicking thing kind of like that, and this kind of jerky clicking thing.

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And, you know, a little bit differently handled in in the film that I could see from the clip.

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But uh, yeah, there's some and there's all these conspiracies about, you know, um the movie Disclosure Day.

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Is it something to prep us for disclosure or is it telling us disclosure itself?

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Is that the announcement for disclosure?

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So um, you know, what are your thoughts on it?

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I mean, you're only there for probably a couple days or whatever, but uh very cool to be in something like that.

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And um, what are your thoughts about the the film and the conspiracy around it that you can talk about and about disclosure?

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Do you think it's gonna happen?

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Yeah, I think um it feels it feels intentional because of all the you know, specifically the last few years of all the um the the information that that is actually coming out, uh that people are saying that there we're we're awakening as a world um and that there's gotta be information presented.

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There's been so much, even if you go uh regular typical news that have been talking about uh aliens and and the and the disclosure of aliens being real and present.

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Um so the timing of this movie coming out, which is I think June of this this year, it feels like it it might not be a coincidence.

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I don't know if the date's tied to anything in particular.

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I think it's like June 12th or something like that.

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June 12th, I think is the release of the film.

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Um, whether, you know, uh, you know, real world, if I don't know if it'll be this year or next year, but I think the timing of this particular movie may because that's been you know, we actually had uh you know on the on on the the podcast maybe a year and a half ago, there was a there was a gentleman you had on that talked about symbolism within cinematic.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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A lot about like Wizard of Oz specifically.

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Um but that's I mean, you know, that's just uh as he as he mentioned, that's just scratching the surface because there's uh I don't think it's it's uh people should forget like that movies are cross-culture um in their breadth of of scope, of messaging to the world, you know, and storytelling.

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And I don't think it's uh reach to for people to kind of prepare public by doing something as you know, like this movie, this disclosure day.

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And is that going to be a distraction?

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You know, there's some is that you know, to be a distract, is that a hologram in itself?

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You know, is that something just a big kind of thing to make us go to bond together, right?

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You know, like some terrorist attack happens like 911.

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Is that something to make us all bond together and and really on the on the flip side lose a lot of our privacy and and kind of make it easier to be to be monitored?

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Um sure.

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There's also a rumor that President Trump has a speech like ready to rock and roll after after.

00:43:52.449 --> 00:43:52.769
I mean, yeah.

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Who knows?

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Who knows what you believe, you know.

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So um yeah, this is crazy.

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